Part 2 of everything you ever wanted to know about my life as a law student! hah.
II. What’s it like to be a law student?
How much do you study?
To preface this question: I don't make good grades. I'm definitely in the bottom half of my class.
Now, for the answer. I get this question a lot. I don't study very much at all. (duhhhh. not studying = not getting good grades. Did you think I was gonna say I never study and I have a 4.0?! HA).
I cram for finals, and that's about it. That's how I've always done it. I actually showed up to the first day of law school without having finished the reading for torts. I don't say this to brag (sometimes people think I'm lying/bragging when I admit how bad of a procrastinator I am), it's just the facts. I am the world's worst procrastinator.
The thing about law school, is it is possible to study as much or as little as possible, and that's what kills people. It's possible to do the bare minimum, kind of study for finals, and pass. (honestly I still know NOTHING about contracts. NOTHING). It is also possible to lock yourself in the library for 20 hours a day, NEVER go out, never speak to anyone outside of law school, and to kill yourself studying.
There is just no end to the amount of work that there is to be done. And when you add any semblance of a personal life to that, it can be overwhelming.
The best advice I can give people on how much to study is to know when to take a break. You will burn yourself out if you try to study all day every day. Take some time off on the weekends. You don’t need to start outlining in August. If you spent 10 hours a day in the library every day of every week, you’re probably doing something wrong. You’re not using your time effectively. Learn how to be efficient. Learn where you get work done. If you can concentrate best at the library, go there. If you get more work done at a coffee shop by your apartment, get to the coffee shop. If you cannot get anything done at home, then get the hell outta the house!
Bottom line – figure out what works for you. And DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get sucked in to what everyone else is doing. Every day you will hear that so and so spent 6 hours reading for torts. Well, So-and-so is probably an idiot, so don’t freak out if you only spent 3. And don’t freak out if you have no clue what is going on. No one does. If they say they get it, they’re probably lying. Don’t panic… everything will be just. fine.
People often talk about "activities" in law school. Are you in moot court or law review or a journal?
I have a feeling my answer to this question might catch some heat from my friends/followers. I am not on moot court or law review. I don't really know anyone on moot court at my school, but I've heard it's a lot of work. No thank you, I have plenty of work to do on my own, I don't need to add something else to the mix. I do have a couple friends who are on moot court at other schools and really seem to enjoy it.
If you haven't figured it out by now, law review is the holy grail of law school activities. If you make good enough grades, do it. But be prepared to hate it. I have lots of friends on law review. It's miserable. But it looks good on your resume and it's cool to say you're published.
As for any other student organizations? I think they're pretty much all a joke. The only people who care about SBA are the people who are on SBA . I know lots of people on journals. I think they're a pretty big waste of time. I don't know of anyone who has ever gotten a job because they were a member of a journal. It's a lot of work, there is a lot of "politics" (i.e. high school type drama), and it's just not that helpful. I think you're better off getting a clerking gig, making contacts, and getting paid.
Feel free to chime in in the comments if you disagree with me.
How have you survived the boredom of 3L year?
Don't take boring classes!!! That has been my theory all through law school. I have a very strong interest in criminal law, so I have taken just about every single criminal law class that my school offers me. Mental Health Issues in Criminal Law, Advanced Criminal Procedure, Death Penalty Clinic, etc. No, mental health issues in criminal law will not be on the bar exam, and secured transactions will. But to me it is so much more worth it to take classes that I'm interested in. It makes it easier to sit through the class, to read for it (occasionally!), and to study for the final. Find something that you're interested in! I also really enjoyed a couple of the family law classes I took. Each semester when I went through the course catalog to pick classes, I always went by what I thought sounded interesting
Other than that? Drink a lot. :) (c'monnnnn we knew that was going to be an answer somewhere, right?)
I just try to enjoy the fact that I won't be able to sleep in on Tuesdays when I have a "big girl" job, and I won't be getting spring break anymore, etc. Honestly 3L year has been my busiest year yet. Boredom hasn't really been an issue. Don't get me wrong though - it is so hard to stay motivated. At this point I'm just OVER IT!
What do you do when everything gets to you and you want to give up? I'm working on my appellate brief and wondering why I'm here.
Take a break! Appellate Briefs are tough. I work on them at work and still get frustrated and confused and stressed out.
I just try to remind myself that it's just part of the process. What do you want to do? I remind myself that this is just another step that I have to take before I can practice the type of law that I want to practice.
Other than that, just take it easy. Ask your teacher for help if you need it (although I never found any of my legal writing professors to be that helpful!), talk about it with a classmate, etc. Make sure you actually understand what you're writing before you start writing. I think that's a big problem a lot of people have with legal writing stuff - they don't really understand what it is that they're supposed to be advocating for!
But basically, DON'T GIVE UP! Take a day off. Not a couple hours, a whole day. (unless you're like me, and you waited until 2 days before to do the brief, then you don't really have that luxury, ha!). But if you've worked on it ahead of time, take some time off. Do something that is NOT law school. The best thing I can say to do is to keep involved in your life outside of law school. Go to the gym, go to dinner, go out with your friends or boyfriend or whatever, and be a normal person. Don't let law school consume your life!
Would you be as bitter about law school if you were at a top 10 school? I don't mean this in a snarky way. I have friends at top schools that have a v. different outlook than those at lower ranked schools. Does ranking matter that much? I am in the dark.
Interesting question.
I wouldn't really consider myself bitter about law school. I definitely bitch about law school all the time, but just because there are a lot of aspects of law school that are really dumb. And law students can be really dumb and annoying.
Do I bitch and complain about law school? Obviously. But I don't think bitter is quite the right word.
Maybe bitter about the state of the legal job market right now, but even so not really that much. I think I have better employment prospects than a lot of people because I have excellent experience and an incredible professor with tons of contacts who is actively working with me on finding a job.
As for ranking? It definitely matters, to a point. I think out of the top 10-20 schools ranking doesn't really matter. At least it hasn't in my experience.
And the state of the job market is so bad right now that a lot of people even at those top 20 schools don't have jobs.
So yeah, as a general rule, ranking matters a lot. For people who graduated in 09 and 2010? I don't think it does as much. It kinda just sucks for everyone right now.
Let me know if there is anything else you want answered!